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Thiel Audio
SCS4 / PowerPoint 1.2 / SS3 SmartSub / PX05
Home-Theater Speaker System

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DescriptionModel:
SCS4 main loudspeaker
Price: $990 each
Dimensions: 17.6"H x 8.4"W x 11.7"D
Weight: 25 pounds each
Model: PowerPoint 1.2 surround loudspeaker
Price: $1450 each
Dimensions: 12"W x 6.5"H x 21"D
Weight: 16 pounds each
Model: SS3 SmartSub subwoofer
Price: $6900
Dimensions: 34"H x 16"W x 22.5"D
Weight: 167 pounds
Model: PX05 passive crossover
Price: $500 USD
Dimensions: 7"W x 2"H" x 6.5"D
Weight: 3 pounds
System price: $13,270
Warranty: Ten years, limited. |

Features (cont'd)SCS4
- Two-way design
- 1" metal-dome tweeter coincident with 6.5"
metal-diaphragm woofer
- First-order acoustic crossover
- Aluminum baffle
PowerPoint 1.2
- Two-way design
- 1" metal-dome tweeter coincident with 6.5"
metal-diaphragm woofer
- First-order acoustic crossover
- Angled drivers
- Solid aluminum cabinet
- Can be mounted on wall or ceiling
SS3 SmartSub
- Two long-throw 12" woofers
- Short-coil/long-gap motor systems
- Switch-mode power supply, 1kW linear amplifier
- Boundary Compensation controls
- 6 detachable power cord
- Compatible with Thiel PX05 passive crossover
PX05
- Permits subwoofer to alter its output to augment speaker
output
- For use with up to five channels
- Custom-made to work with any Thiel speaker model(s)
- Small footprint ideal for crowded equipment racks or other
areas
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In retrospect, it was not the best-laid
plan. I was leaving for work for an important meeting when a trucking company called to
notify me that I was about to receive a 500-pound skid containing an assortment of Thiel
speakers -- curbside delivery only.
Oh, yes -- I had, in fact, agreed to review a Thiel
home-theater speaker system comprising three SCS4s, two PowerPoint 1.2s, and one
gargantuan, 167-pound SS3 SmartSub with PX05 external passive crossover (total system
price: $13,270).
This was a problem. Many phone calls later -- to Thiel, the
trucking company, my editor, my boss, my buildings super -- a rough plan was in
place. Inspired by a three-figure payoff, the building staff would, without suffering
injury, attempt to receive the skid when it arrived.
When I got home that evening, I was glad to discover that
the delivery had gone smoothly and that the goods were safely stashed in my
buildings basement. Getting the small speakers up to my apartment was easy. The sub?
Not so much. In size and shape, its enormous wooden crate resembled a coffin. Figuring it
was too heavy to be easily stolen, I left it in the basement for a week, until Thiel could
send its very helpful PR representative to help me get it upstairs.
At which point -- and after Id cleared a backlog of
other review equipment I had on hand -- the review could begin.
SCS4
The two-way SCS4 loudspeaker ($990 each) sports a 1"
metal-dome tweeter at the center of a metal-diaphragm 6.5" woofer. The tweeter is
virtually the same as the model used in Thiels flagship speaker, the CS3.7.
The SCS4s drivers are placed in an unusual
"coaxial coincident" array in which the tweeter is inset back in the speaker and
time-aligned with the woofer. According to Thiel, this "time coherence" ensures
that every listener hears the sound from both drivers at exactly the same time, regardless
of where and in what orientation (vertical or horizontal) the speakers are placed.
The SCS4s tweeter crosses over to the woofer at
2.5kHz via a gradual-transition, acoustic first-order crossover. According to Thiel, this
improves the uniformity of the speakers dispersion in all directions; the speaker is
claimed to be "phase coherent."
The SCS4s cabinet of 1"-thick MDF has a die-cast
aluminum baffle and is front-ported. The baffle provides a rigid platform on which to
mount the drivers, and minimizes cabinet resonances. The cabinet is reinforced with
internal braces of 1"-thick MDF. Dont let the fact that this speaker is made in
China fool you: Its sexy and gorgeous, with a fit and finish that are nothing short
of incredible.
PowerPoint 1.2
Like the SCS4, the PowerPoint 1.2 ($1450 each) can be used
as a front-, center-, or rear-channel speaker; it can also be mounted on a wall or
ceiling.
Also like the SCS4, the PowerPoint uses coaxial coincident
driver placement, and is designed for situations in which conventional speakers could pose
problems. The PowerPoints drivers are almost identical to those found in the SCS4.
The crossovers used in the two speakers are also very similar, the one used in the
PowerPoint also being a gradual-transition, acoustic first-order design.
The PowerPoints sleek, wedge-shaped cabinet of cast
aluminum undoubtedly accounts for some of its higher cost over the SCS4. Thiel states that
aluminum offers excellent clarity and dynamics, and makes it possible for the
speakers output to cover a very wide area, further maximizing performance for
virtually any listening position. This heavy speaker is built like a tank.
SS3 SmartSub and PX05 external crossover
Its safe to assume that most people running SCS4s and
PowerPoints dont pair them with a monstrous SS3 subwoofer ($6900). But because
Id recently had some outstanding ones in for review, my editor told Thiel to send me
a "killer" sub, and that they did.
This large sub stands a commanding 34" tall. Im
511" -- it comes up to about my waist. The SS3 sports two front-firing,
12", high-output, low-distortion drivers with aluminum diaphragms, heavy cast
chassis, and proprietary, short-coil/long-gap, copper-stabilized motor systems powered by
10-pound magnets in structures that have a total weight of 20 pounds each. Thiel states
that this design results in distortion levels that are one-tenth that of drivers with the
same excursion rating, and allows each driver to move an unusually large amount of air.
The SS3 can be used by itself or with an external crossover.
The SS3 is powered by a switch-mode power supply and a
linear amplifier claimed to output 1kW. What caught my eye were the controls on the rear
panel: they not only let you adjust the gain, as with most subs, but also to engage what
Thiel calls Boundary Compensation by equalizing certain frequencies, in the event the SS3
needs to be placed near a side or rear wall.
The PX05 ($500) is a freestanding passive crossover that
can be used for up to five-channel listening, and is configured at the Thiel factory to
work with any Thiel speaker model(s). The PX05 doesnt redirect bass away from the
speakers; instead, it allows the SS3s lower-level output to augment that of the
speakers, to create smoother frequency transitions. As a result, as discussed below,
its probably not suited for use in very large rooms with smaller speakers, as such
speakers will typically receive too much low-end signal.
Getting an elephant to play well with mice
Properly positioning the SCS4s and PowerPoint 1.2s in my
medium-size (22L x 12W) room was easy. It was getting the enormous SS3
SmartSub to smoothly blend its output into that of the smaller speakers that gave me
pause. This process is never simple, but when the smaller speakers dont go extremely
low in the first place, thus necessitating the use of a relatively high crossover
frequency, the job is even harder.
Luckily, I had two ringers in the wings: the PX05, as well
as Audysseys MultEQ Pro room-correction software, included in my Integra DHC-9.9 A/V
processor. Before starting up the software, I ran an XLR-terminated interconnect from the
SS3s input into an output on the PX05. Also, for each of the five channels, and at
Thiels advice, I ran inexpensive zip cord from the speaker-level output on my power
amplifier into an input on the PX05.
After positioning the SCS4s with very slight toe-in and
placing them on inexpensive stands, I ran the Audyssey software and began to listen. But
something was amiss -- with multiple types of sources, the midrange sounded recessed.
Luckily, using Audyssey meant that I didnt really need the PX05 to assist with the
crossover when running source material through the Integra. I therefore removed the PX05
for my initial testing, then reran Audyssey, and wound up with a sub crossover frequency
of 80Hz -- at which point the problem disappeared. I later contacted Gary Dayton,
Thiels manager of customer support and technical service, who told me that while
Thiels external crossovers usually work just fine with digital room-correction
software, occasional glitches can occur.
Performance: smart listening
The Thiel SCS4 was
recently reviewed for SoundStage! by S. Andrea Sundaram. I wont go over
all of the details of that review, but Andrea was not disappointed by this tonally neutral
speaker, which displayed, for its price, coherence, fluid transitions between its drivers,
excellent transient delivery, and deep soundstaging. He also found that the SCS4 could
create a relatively large orchestral sound while demonstrating "very respectable bass
performance for a two-way monitor" and "a little less bass bloom" than some
of its competitors.
According to Andrea, the SCS4 had an honest midrange, if
not the sweetest hed heard, and its treble was "slightly shelved down,"
resulting in "a little less harmonic information and a little less air around
instruments than I am accustomed to hearing."
Doug Schneider, SoundStage! Network publisher, chimed in to
say that the SCS4s played louder and larger than hed imagined they might, and that
their imaging was "stunning." Doug did quibble with the high end, which he found
a bit "splashy" on cymbals, and overall somewhat "dry" and
"uneven."
The SCS4 and the PowerPoint 1.2 have similar pedigrees, so
I wasnt surprised to hear that they sounded similar as well. Nonetheless, switching
them from front to rear revealed that those sounds were not identical. Both models had a
smooth, detailed, distortion-free midrange. At first listen, however, the PowerPoint 1.2
came across as sounding a bit metallic -- perhaps unsurprising, given their cast-aluminum
cabinets. But the more I listened with various recordings, the more I realized that the
PowerPoint didnt sound metallic at all. Rather, it was tonally dead on. Instead, it
was the SCS4 that subjected singers voices to a mild coloration -- and a similar
effect could be heard with the SCS4 throughout the midrange, particularly with horns,
guitars, and other stringed instruments.
Moving the PowerPoints to the front left and right channels
revealed that the SCS4s could dig deeper into the lower frequencies. This was possibly due
to the SCS4s larger cabinet, as well as the fact that, unlike the PowerPoint, the
SCS4 is ported. Of course, this doesnt mean you couldnt use the PowerPoints up
front -- in a home theater, youll likely be using a subwoofer as well.
Still, in light of the SCS4s deeper reach, slightly
more developed soundstage, and the fact that theyre easier to place for stereo
listening, Id keep the SCS4s up front. But I kid you not -- you could use the
PowerPoint 1.2s as the speakers of a two-channel system (especially if youre also
using a small subwoofer) and be shocked at how great they sound.
The Blu-ray edition of Fast and Furious offers
low-level, nitro-methane-induced engine growls and a healthy dose of plain old-fashioned
gunfire and explosions -- just what the doctor ordered for a review of such a beast as the
SS3 SmartSub. I was also interested to hear how the SCS4s would handle all the action. In
chapter 17, just before the final chase scene, Vin Diesel and Paul Walker face the lead
baddie in an old, extremely large church. Unlike the rest of the movie, this scene is dead
quiet except for the delicate, peaceful chirping of birds high up near the churchs
ceiling. The SCS4s placed the birds high in the soundstage, adding realism to the scene
though their incredible imaging abilities.
During the final car chase -- er, I mean, car wreck
scene, the SS3 made it sound as if the cars were crashing in my listening room. Only at
the very loudest, unrealistic levels did the SCS4s began to give. At no time,
however, did the SS3 even think about overreaching or straining. The low bass was deep,
taut, clear, and utterly resolved. In fact, although the SS3 initially sounded lean, it
wasnt. It simply distorted less than any other subwoofer Ive had in my
listening room. And that meant that, over extended listening sessions, I was less fatigued
than with many other subs Ive heard.
Moving on to multichannel music recordings, and thus freed
from the intense low-level frequencies inherent in action-movie soundtracks, I reset
Audyssey MultEQ Pro to move the crossover point lower, from 80 to 50Hz. This sent more
bass signal to the SCS4s and resulted in even better bass integration, although at the
expense of headroom. I dont recommend using this setting for movies, especially if
you have a large room and prefer watching movies at high volume.
But it was the cats meow for music. I put on the
Doors L.A. Woman (DVD-Audio, Elektra 62612-9), and again, what struck me most
about the SCS4s and PowerPoint 1.2s was their soundstaging and the solidity of their
images, especially with a multichannel source. The midrange was crystal clear. In
"Riders on the Storm," the rainstorm beautifully filled the soundstage. John
Densmores tapped cymbal was appropriately placed perhaps a foot off the left speaker
and slightly recessed. The sound coming from the SCS4s and PowerPoint 1.2s was a lot
bigger I expected from speakers of these sizes.
With both speakers, the highs lacked the polish of some
similarly priced speakers. As Doug Schneider noted, cymbals were a bit splashy. I noticed
this also when, as discussed below, I did some two-channel listening with my Nuforce
two-channel P-9 preamplifier. On the Boskovsky Ensembles Dances of Old Vienna (CD,
FIM LIM K2HD 034), the sound of leader Willi Boskovskys violin lacked fluidity.
Im no speaker designer, but it seems to me that even the best designer would be
hard-pressed to create anything approaching perfection for the SCS4s price of
$1980/pair. Ultimately, at this price, the choice is of which set of tradeoffs you prefer:
this speakers or anothers.
The thing that struck me about the SS3 was its musicality:
This large box was no mere rumble generator. This was demonstrated by recordings of
double-bass chords, in which the SS3 revealed definition and pitch resolution I
hadnt heard before. With Jorma Kaukonens Blue Country Heart (SACD,
Columbia CS 86394), the SS3 uncovered not only precise low-level tonal shifts, but also
the snap of the strings of Byron Houses large bass fiddle.
Comparison: subbing it up
It makes little sense to compare just under $6000 of Thiel
monitors to my almost $20,000 worth of MartinLogan full-range speakers. Nonetheless, I was
extremely curious to see how my MartinLogan Descent i subwoofer ($3495) would stack up
against the larger, more expensive Thiel SS3 SmartSub ($7400 with PX05).
For about twice the price of the Descent i, the SS3 should
be the better performer, and it decidedly was. The Thiel sub not only mustered
considerably more shock and awe than the ML, it also displayed more musical finesse. In
addition to its higher price, the SS3 has a larger cabinet and a more powerful amplifier.
However, it became apparent that the SS3s Boundary Compensation adjustments
contributed as well, increasing the definition of bass with only negligible perceived loss
in output. This was after Id set the Boundary Compensation to reflect that the Thiel
sub was, by necessity, virtually pressed up against a wall. When I questioned Gary Dayton
about this, he said that while Boundary Compensation sometimes decreases the output of
some frequencies, the output of other frequencies is actually increased.
As indicated above, if you use a processor that has
room-correction software, you dont particularly need the PX05 to create a seamless
blend of the outputs of the SS3 and the other speakers. For me, the PX05 was worth its
weight in gold for two-channel music listening with the Nuforce preamp, which was beyond
the jurisdictional reach of the Audyssey room-correction software.
With the SS3 hooked up to the Nuforce preamp and the PX05,
the SCS4s were relieved of the burden of having to attempt to produce output below 47Hz,
the point at which Thiel set the crossover for them. (According to Thiel, the SCS4 can,
under ideal conditions, dip down to 48Hz.) The sonic improvements I now experienced were
not at all subtle, and included improvements not only in low-end extension, but also with
respect to higher frequencies, particularly in the midbass and midrange. The SCS4s also
sounded faster than before. Incredibly, dynamic range, soundstaging, imaging, and the
ability to portray spatiality all improved as well.
In addition, in this two-channel configuration, the PX05
was solely responsible for making the SS3 and the SCS4s and PowerPoint 1.2s function as a
single full-range speaker with a seamless integration of frequencies. Had I used a generic
external crossover, or no external crossover at all, obtaining these results would have
been difficult or impossible.
Conclusion
While the SC4S and PowerPoint 1.2 speakers are very worthy
of consideration for music listening, their sonic strengths make them especially suited to
home theater. Their placement flexibility also means they are ideal for integrating into
difficult rooms. Even so, the real star here is the SS3 SmartSub subwoofer. Im not
going out on a limb in stating that it will rock your experience of movies and
music with bass thats deeper, cleaner, and more tuneful than that from most other
subwoofers. And the PX05 crossover helps make system setup a breeze, especially if your
processor or receiver doesnt include automatic room-optimization software.
A final word of advice: If you buy an SS3, getting it into
your house and system will be a heck of a lot easier if you plan ahead for its delivery!
| Review
System |
| Speakers -- MartinLogan
Summit X (mains), MartinLogan Stage (center), MartinLogan Script i (surrounds),
MartinLogan Descent i (subwoofer) |
| A/V
processor -- Integra DHC-9.9 |
| Amplifiers -- Halcro Logic
MC50, Bryston 9B SST2 |
| Source
-- Marantz UD9004 universal player |
| Power conditioners --
Synergistic Research PowerCell SE, PS Audio Noise Harvesters, DIY parallel filter |
| Cables
and power cords -- Synergistic Research |
| Isolation devices -- Bright
Star Audio Big Rocks and Little Rocks, Black Diamond Racing cones and pucks, DIY amp
stands, Mapleshade Heavy Hats, Anti-Vibration Magic (AVM) Solution, Acoustic Revive CB-1DB
receptacle base plate, Jenga blocks |
| Accessories
-- Acoustic Revive CFRP-1F carbon-fiber outlet plate, Mapleshade Silclear contact enhancer |
| Room treatments --
Synergistic Research Acoustic Art system |
| Display
devices -- Epson Home Cinema 6500 UB projector, Stewart Filmscreen Luxus
Communicator screen |
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